Posted by: Carlotta | November 10, 2008

Blacks experience racism from the LGBT Community!

Racism is reeling its ugly head as reports of anger by the LGBT community directed towards blacks is growing.  Looking for scapegoats in their anger and frustration is driving many gays to vent at those they blame.  The Mormon church has been getting the brunt of most of their frustrations but now many are turning their anger toward blacks and apparently, it doesn’t even matter if the blacks are on their side with their No on Prop 8 signs.

According to sites such as a gay blog, Rod 2.0, many blacks, gay and straight have been verbally abused by many gays.  One example is of Geoffrey, a black UCLA student who had joined the protest outside of the Mormon Temple in Los Angeles.  He said the following:

“It was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks. YOU N****R, one man shouted at men. If your people want to call me a FA****T, I will call you a n****r. Someone else said same thing to me on the next block near the temple…me and my friend were walking, he is also gay but Korean, and a young WeHo clone said after last night the n****rs better not come to West Hollywood if they knew what was BEST for them.

Two other black gay men who were even carrying No on Prop 8 signs during the protest, were still subjected to the racially verbal abuse when told:

Three older men accosted my friend and shouted, “Black people did this, I hope you people are happy!” A young lesbian couple with mohawks and Obama buttons joined the shouting and said there were “very disappointed with black people” and “how could we” after the Obama victory. This was stupid for them to single us out because we were carrying those blue NO ON PROP 8 signs! I pointed that out and the one of the older men said it didn’t matter because “most black people hated gays” and he was “wrong” to think we had compassion. That was the most insulting thing I had ever heard. I guess he never thought we were gay.

This racism was highlighted in an excellent article by ex-gay Christian activist James Hartline titled: Racism & Bigotry Are Big Components of Gay Leaders Fighting Prop. 8. Just viewing some of the comments on his blog it is apparent that many are in disbelief that this is even happening.

According to James’ article, even gay leader Wayne Besen makes some surprising comments regarding blacks who voted against gay marriage and for Prop 8 by saying in 365gay.com:

“I can understand why white gay people are angry. I certainly am.  But let’s take a step back and look at this dispassionately. I believe our failure with the African American vote (70 percent voted in favor of Prop.) has more to do with education levels than race. In general, people with lower levels of education - of any race - do not vote for gay rights. White people are twice as likely to graduate college as black people. This accounts for the difference by race on Prop. 8.”

and he continues:

“people with lower levels of education” do not vote for gay rights.

Now, this is from a man who has called for no racism on his organization’s blog, TruthWinsOut.org (TWO) when he says:

“It is reprehensible to look for scapegoats and target innocent people with vile racial epithets,” said TWO Executive Director, Wayne Besen.

It is apparent that Wayne Besen doesn’t understand the depth to his own racism.  Blacks are idiots who voted for Prop 8.  Just getting them educated is his theory.  Wow!  Please read James Hartline’s entire post on this subject!

I’m going to share my theory to why 70% blacks voted for Prop 8 and something that was recognized by even the black lesbian writer, Jasmyne Cannick in her Los Angeles Times editorial, No-on-8’s White Bias when she says:

“But the black civil rights movement was essentially born out of and driven by the black church; social justice and religion are inextricably intertwined in the black community. To many blacks, civil rights are grounded in Christianity — not something separate and apart from religion but synonymous with it. To the extent that the issue of gay marriage seemed to be pitted against the church, it was going to be a losing battle in my community.”

Here is a lesbian who gets it while white LGBT’s are busily demeaning the intelligence of black people by saying their lack of education is the reason.  No, the reason is because of the culture of Christianity which most blacks adhere to and the teaching that homosexuality as a sin.  There is no separation of one’s firm religious convictions and how they may vote on an issue.

Black ministers joined forces with other Christian pastors in getting the word out that Prop 8 was against what God has ordained: sex between a married man and a woman.  Of course, the black community has much to explain in why it’s babies out of wedlock and divorces are so high, but the fact remains that it at least recognizes that marriage between two same sexes isn’t the norm.

Spread the word: Blacks are not ignorant, they just happen to believe that homosexuality is sin accoriding to biblical teachings and that marriage of two immoral people is completely unacceptable.  It doesn’t take a PhD for a Christian to understand that.

So the message to the LGBT community is this: don’t waste your time “educating” black people unless you can convince someone that Jesus Christ never existed and His word is a book of fables.

Responses

  1. I cannot adequately express my disappointment at the hurtful and unproductive experiences that you share here.

    I am continually challenged to look at racism that I consciously or unconsciously participate in and the passage of Proposition 8 does not sway me from the goal of rooting out racism in my life and community; if anything, it reminds me of the gulfs left to bridge.

    When it comes to standing against racism wherever it is found, you have an ally in Christ in me.

  2. Brian, I do appreciate your comments regarding racism. It appears you have much sensitivity and understanding regarding it.

    The only thing I may disagree with you here is that we are allies in Christ. You are gay. I’m not. We aren’t allies in Christ because we have a huge disagreement - that homosexuality is a sin or not. Calling yourself a Christian AND gay shows that we are quite at odds with one another. I simply don’t believe you can call yourself a Christian and practice the homosexual lifestyle. You CAN’T be a Christian and embrace ANY kind of sin.

    You are also a member of SoulForce - that tells many of us where you stand exactly!

  3. SoulForce is an awful organization that perpetuates one lie after another about the Bible - http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/endless-errors-from-soulforce/

    Carlotta, great post. I am amazed at the venom from the glbtq folks.

    I’ve always said that if I were black that I’d be really irritated that the glbtq lobby tried to co-opt the Civil Rights movement. What an insult!

    Skin color is morally neutral. Sexual behavior is not.

    Re. education and voting for oxymoronic same-sex marriage, I am reminded of this quote by J. Budziszewski:

    “Though it always comes as a surprise to intellectuals, there are some forms of stupidity that you must be highly intelligent and educated to commit. God keeps them in His arsenal to pull down mulish pride, and I discovered them all.”

  4. Neil, thanks so much for the link. I do want folks to know about SoulForce.

    Right now I’m more than irritated - really ticked that folks including our own governor, have the nerve to equate the civil rights of blacks to the LGBT rights movement!

    I have to do some serious praying about my attitude…excuse me while I go do that.

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